How is this guy still alive?

Olifant / Published July 27, 2012 03:51 PM
I would have trampled his ass.


Sergio Mendez Santiago

Commented July 27, 2012 07:04 PM
Not sure but I will never do that, in a blink of an eye the Lion can get you!! probably the toilet paper was for the Lion to clean his mouth after eating.

R.D.Wayne Holloway Photographer / Back to Africa Safaris Pty Ltd

Commented July 28, 2012 12:19 AM
Totally,totally irresponsible and could have put the Lions life at risk IF it had have killed the idiot. what a buffoon..........

Harshit Singh

Commented July 28, 2012 05:19 AM
thats mike penmann again from animal planet's mad mike and mark, what else can we expect O.o

Sally Panos

Commented July 28, 2012 08:35 AM
The lion was far better behaved than that idiot!

Grant Cumings

Commented July 28, 2012 09:30 AM
Made for mass consumption TV & perhaps Penman is making a point by showing the world that lions are not savage man-eaters as oft portrayed; however the producers should find more responsible ways to get their message across otherwise the masses could be misled into believing that this is acceptable human/wildlife interaction.

Michael Lorentz

Commented July 28, 2012 12:15 PM
Such a bad message at so many levels. Its all about ego getting in the way of common sense and acceptable, respectful interaction. All of us who are privileged enough to work with wild animals have a responsibility to maintain a code of conduct that honours the other species we share this world with. What is sad about this video is that Mike uses the genuine knowledge he has of lion behavior to do nothing more than promote his own ego. All this action deserves is the toilet paper it got...

Harshit Singh

Commented July 29, 2012 05:50 PM
Well really agreed to that, Penman should have been much more responsible there on that part...

Paul Caldwell

Commented August 01, 2012 09:07 AM
I have mixed feelings about this film. Would we criticise the late Steve Irwin who has shown us more about crocodile behaviour than anyone? What it does show is an amazing knowledge about classic animal behaviour and I believe that the more we learn about this subject the better. I once went to Alaska and took the opportunity to go close to bears. I was taught, beforehand though, what to do if I came face to face with one so that I had some chance of being unharmed. I wonder does a similar thing apply. Would I now be safer, having watched the film, if I was ever accidentally in a similar situation. Of course what we can't cater for is the daft idiot who copies what was done. Sorry if this is at odds with other comments and I do agree that the whole thing could have been done better and more scientifically with less emphasis on personal bravado. I have to say though that I am better educated about lion behaviour than I was ten minutes ago. Is it not the complete wonder about animals and their behaviour that keeps enthralling us. Perhaps those of you directly concerned with the safari industry might be at odds with this view but it is this kind of thing which keeps bringing me back.

Clay Knight

Commented August 01, 2012 12:19 PM
Paul, you bring up some interesting points especially in regards to Steve Irwin. I guess there is something to learn from this however I'm struggling with what that is exactly. This video may show us how to act if for some reason we're in this situation but I'd rather learn how to not put myself in this situation. Aside from my own safety my real concern here is for the animal. Lions are an Africa attraction to tourists and if by chance this guy get's eaten up as a result of his behavior will the lion then be flagged for man-eating behavior and put down? I've heard stories where the animal paid the price because man ventured too far into the animals territory.

Andy Hogg

Commented August 01, 2012 06:25 PM
Great point Clay - 100% sure the lion would have been shot!

Paul Caldwell

Commented August 01, 2012 07:43 PM
Of course there is no right or wrong in this matter just different points of view which is what I was trying to illustrate. Man is a curious creature that has an innate desire to increase his knowledge. The trouble is that we don't learn. In my travels I have been as guilty as anyone trying to learn from and marvel at what I have seen. I wrote a book about it called "Into Africa" and upon reflection I did not finish it with a forceful enough ending because I have recognised something profound. Man has the technology to live anywhere. If too hot we can cool, if too cold we can heat, if too dry we can wet and where too wet we can dry. We have, because of this ability stolen the habitat of other species who have a right to share our planet. Because of this pressure on their habitat it is us who wander into their domain at our peril. If you swim with sharks consider yourself bait. I hope I don't bore everyone but here is a song called the keeper. I would like to share the words with you. One morning when the world was new when first we saw the sun, The Lord came down to rest a while so pleased with what he'd done, But of all the creatures he had made he loved the man the best, And so he placed into his hands the fate of all the rest. Chorus. And all these things I give to you to keep and to protect, From the geatest of the big blue whale to the tiniest insect, To rule with loving kindness, the weak the wild the strong, But treat my creatures gently only you know right from wrong. But man was so conceited that he couldn't see the worth, Of all the other creatures that fill this lovely earth, And one by one he hunted them for food and sport and greed, And one by one they disappeared each species and each breed, Chorus:- After many years had passed the Lord came down to see, The man and all the others that he'd left so wild and free, But where are all my silver streams my forrests dark and green, There was only dust and desert wherever man had been. Chorus:- Where are all my animals the hippo and the whale the fish that filled the oceans before your ships set sail The lion and the tiger and my elephant so tall I left you as their keeper do you not recall. Chorus:- And all these things I gave to you to keep and to protect From the greatest of the big blue whale to the tiniest insect To rule with loving kindness the weak the wild the strong And treat my creatures gently only you know right from wrong. Forgive me if I have bored you and if there are any typing or spelling errors do forgive. I am not the quickest of typists.

Clay Knight

Commented August 10, 2012 05:01 PM
You're right Paul... all too often man never learns.

Brendan Raisbeck

Commented August 11, 2012 07:28 PM
I remember seeing this on nat geo a few years back and thought what an idiot by putting the lion in a predicament whereby it could have been shot as a result of attacking Mike. The film would have been viewed by many young safari guides and laymen not so in the know regarding lion behavior and thought that they might be able to do something similar, that is what really worried me at the time...luckily enough i havent heard of any accidents, therefore i hope man has learnt not to replicate other idiots mistakes.

Warren Green

Commented August 12, 2012 08:17 PM
Ja, I have seen this clip before. Sorry for the Irwin fans, but the man was a fool, you don't know how many times I have had to save my young kids from handling venomous snakes, which they thought it was safe to do and quoted Irwin's lines when doing so. Penman is no different. I think Penman is also a little late, what he was trying to popularise has been a traditional hunting tactic of the ilDorobo in East Africa for as long as they have coexisted with lion. Keep your toilet paper and your getaway car Mark, this is how real men do it. &

Piers L'Estrange

Commented August 19, 2012 10:27 AM
Penman should know better, but as always the money talked and Penman walked...... No wonder that when Tennant and Penman came to Namibia to shoot some episodes they were "supervised" when they did the Desert Rhino insert by govt officials and SRT representatives. Nobody here trusted them to do responsible TV.

Michael Lorentz

Commented August 20, 2012 06:31 AM
I guess every industry has its "low bar"....

Phill Steffny

Commented August 21, 2012 11:10 AM
Has anyone ever heard Mike's opinion, or reasoning for shooting this clip?


Commented August 21, 2012 11:44 AM
These days on television there is a growing trend of producers creating sensationalised footage to attract viewers. The idea of extreme TV and man pitting himself against the wild attracts people especially when there is a hint that something might happen to the presenter. They cover themselves with short disclaimers often too quick to read properly.."The viewer is advised not to try this at home..." but the whole point of these programs is to bring the wilds into our front room and to make them accessible to people with office jobs who rarely venture out and eventually we become complacent to real danger. Not only that but in the case of wild life we are intruding on their natural habitat and we are telling people (despite the disclaimers) that it is ok to do so. If the lion was to attack this presenter then it would definately be shot probably on the spot to try and stop it from killing him and certainly later to prevent it from applying this "learned behaviour" to other unlucky people it encounters. So whilst the TV show can get great ratings the poor lion is the one who is really at risk. How can this presenter who obviously has so much knowledge about wildlife behaviour put that knowledge to such an idiotic use? There is no need to prove that he can get close to a lion other than to attract ratings. That being said I agree with Phil Steffny and Id like to hear Mikes reasoning for this film clip. Personally I dont really prescribe to these extreme sensationlised TV shows that encourage watchers to do really stupid things. They can claim that the disclaimers protect people but who really believes that? If it was true what would be the point of advertising and why would people still smoke despite the health warnings on packets? Show kids dangerous things on TV and they will definately want to emmulate their heroes. Just because you might need to climb a waterfall with no ropes and no helmets in a survival situation is not a good enough reason in my book to show it on TV and portray it as a cool thing to do and it certainly didnt teach me how to do this myself if I had to. Likewise crawling up to that Lion on hands and knees didnt teach me how to keep a lion calm if I wake up in the bush with one standing next to me - but Im sure it rocketed their channels ratings.

Michael Lorentz

Commented August 21, 2012 01:19 PM
Well said Dan


Commented September 10, 2012 12:19 AM
People like this make the jobs of those involved with wildlife protection and management exponentially more difficult. What is he trying to prove here? So the lions do not kill him. It shows the lions are much more tolerant (and intelligent). If the lions kill him, then all this fool has done is give lions and other wild predators more bad press and reinforces irrational fears. It is not just this fool. There are many others who place their lives and the lives of wildlife in grave danger. TV networks cash in on it. Millions of viewers see a 'professional' getting away with approaching these types of animals and they now think they can do it. I see this everyday working in Yellowstone National Park. It's one thing if it is an isolated incident, but when I deal with over 3 million unrestrained visitors a year, stuff like this becomes common place. I am not joking here. The park has had an incident where a visitor tried to pet a grizzly cub, feed wolves, feed bears, put a child on the back of a bison, along with incidents where wildlife are consistently approached dangerously and illegally close. Our rules state one must remain at least 25 yards away from wildlife (100 yards away from bears and wolves) or farther if the animal shows signs of disturbance. A name that became well known in the states was Tim Treadwell. He pulled stuff like this for 13 years with brown bears in Alaska. Guess what, he and another person ended up dead. More tragic was the death of two bears and a lot of negative press directed towards this incident. All it did was reinforce the fear in those with irrational fears and hatred directed towards bears. TV networks need to be more responsible. Shows picturing fools like this should stop. It may boost ratings but it sends a dangerous message. Very,very sad. The fool is lucky. He stoked his ego. He showed how selfish he was with satisfying his obsession in getting close to wildlife. He may claim to love lions, but he put them in extreme danger and he went out of his way to disturb these lions who were resting on what I am pretty sure was a very hot day. If I caught someone doing something simialr to a grizzly bear inside the park, he'd be placed in handcuffs, brought to jail, and spend a day with a judge. Hopefully he'd be found guilty, fined, possibly given a short prison sentence, and most likely be banned from entering the park for up to five years. But I guess fools like this provide job security for us wildlife professionals ;-)

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